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Independent Contractors & Unemployment

  • 1.  Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-05-2020 11:14
    With all of the talk about a new Stimulus Bill coming out of Washington, not one mention of Independent Contractors being included. Can anybody weigh in on any knowledge including our Leadership. Thanks

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    Rutledge Deas
    Professional Land LLC
    Spring TX
    (281) 796-8066
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  • 2.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-06-2020 10:53
    Your LLC, LC or Corp., if you have one, will make you eligible for benefits.

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    John Baldwin
    Baldwin Energy, LLC
    Longview TX
    (318) 364-7798
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  • 3.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-07-2020 10:55
    Rutledge,

    I am seeing a lot of information thrown around about your inquiry. Go to this site it explains very well what you qualify for. https://smartasset.com/financial-advisor/coronavirus-cares-act-self-employed-unemployment .

    The CARES act allowed for gig workers and contractors to received pandemic unemployment retroactive back to January 27, 2020 through 12/31/2020 in state unemployment benefits just as if you were working for a company for up to 39 total weeks with a possible 13 week extention. My benefits end 2/21/2020 The article lists the reasons you qualify or do not qualify. The PEUC portion of the CARES act allowed for an additional amount of $600 for up to 13 weeks through July 31st depending on when your states work week starts and stops. I live in Ohio and mine starts on Sunday so my last week of the extra $600 ended the week of 7/25. I am still collecting the state portion of the unemployment benefits for pandemic reasons.

    Just because you have an LLC, C-Corp, or other designation does not guarantee you benefits. In this scenerio you have to be an employee paying into your states unemployment fund, filing all the state required unemployment returns.

    I have an LLC and I tried filing and was denied, after the pandemic system was set up I applied again, provided my 2019 tax documents including my schedule c along with the 1099 I received from the company I was working for. In my state which after talking with people I know receiving this benefits like me, a Landman, their states were doing exactly the same process because its all being paid under the rules that the Gov't gave each state, so the questions they ask are all the same. My argument was since the pandemic, the demand for oil has fallen, at one point negative $38 and change and because such O&G companies were closing and not operating thus I cannot work due to the pandemic, they agreed.

    I urge everyone to read the article above, it appears many contractors have not availed themselves of these benefits.

    I hope this helps.

    Kelly T. Stumbo

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    Kelly Stumbo
    Appalachian Energy Partners, LLC
    Springfield OH
    (304) 693-2510
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  • 4.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-11-2020 12:56
    Thank you for the link!  Has anyone filed for PEUC and PUA in Colorado?  I finally filed something with Colorado Dept. of Labor, and my email said it was the PUA.  I cannot for the life of me figure out how to file for the PEUC.  Does anyone know if maybe you apply once in Colorado and it applies to both?  But my confirmation email stated that it was PUA and unfortunately began the week it ended.  I see nothing on our website about retroactive pay.  Thanks.  

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  • 5.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-12-2020 17:13
    Kelly-

    Thanks so much for sharing your experience.  I'm also in Ohio, so it seems particularly relevant to me.

    I had looked into the PUA process a 5-6 weeks or so ago, and came to the conclusion that I was NOT eligible as an independent contractor unless I was out of work due to COVID related illness or was out of work because I was the primary caregiver for someone who had COVID.  Your story seems to suggest otherwise?  Did you not run into the same stumbling block when applying on the Ohio Jobs and Family Services site?


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    David Barber
    Independent
    Galesburg IL
    (309) 335-8287
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  • 6.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-13-2020 11:14
    David -

    PUA is a federal program.  The state you reside in is irrelevant.

    To qualify for PUA assistance you must either impacted by health or ECONOMIC consequences of Covid-19.  You should be eligible if there is any money left in the fund.  Hope you are not too late.

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    Joseph Hoefler RPL
    Independent
    Galveston TX
    (281) 748-9716
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  • 7.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-07-2020 10:57
    I did not apply for the first stimulus because I have no employees. The loan forgiveness depended on keeping employees employed. I personally felt the funds should go to small companies that needed the funds to keep their current employees employed. At the time there were other sources of business loans available through the main national banks. Since then, I have sought that same lending and have been told that the funds are no longer available since the government forced the national lenders to participate in the payroll loan forgiveness program. Funny how there are implications of and to government intervention.

    Robert Findley
    Project Land Solutions, LLC, DBA Realty Insight
    281-793-6656 cell


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  • 8.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-06-2020 10:53
    Rutledge,

    It was my understanding that the PUA insurance continued through the end of the year for contractors and gig workers. I know in Ohio I am collecting the state portion of unemployment still and if/when the new Covid Bill gets passed that it will be retroactive back to the end of the CARES act which was 7/25. Whatever the extra that congress comes up with.

    Kelly T. Stumbo
    Appalachian Energy Partners, LLC
    Springfield, Ohio

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    Kelly Stumbo
    Appalachian Energy Partners, LLC
    Springfield OH
    (304) 693-2510
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  • 9.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-06-2020 11:19
    Thanks Kelly, I hope your right

    Sent from my iPhone





  • 10.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-06-2020 16:06
    I can only reply to my situation. For the 1st time in 16 years I was working as a "employee" so I can get unemployment.

    There was some talk of "contract landman" receiving  some type of compensation however it may be by each states laws. I do know previously when there was a downturn there was no way we could get unemployment.

    I would contact the local office of your congressional Representative to inquire if there are provisions available to get unemployment.

    Now the downside, you have to pay income tax on the money you receive.

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    Gene Mall
    Chamois MO
    (405) 818-9544
    Gene
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  • 11.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-06-2020 16:06
    I do not believe that an 'Independent Contractor' would be eligible for the unemployment benefits. 

    However, if you operate a LLC, or other company, of which you are an employee and you lay yourself off, then it would seem that you should be eligible for the unemployment benefits.

    I would be interested what anyone else has found, or knows, about this.





  • 12.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-07-2020 10:56
    Independent Contractors are definitely covered under PUA.  Ohio set up a new website for it which wasn't running until May but they paid me benefits retroactively back to February.  I am battling them as they have me listed as earning $0.00 in 2019 and are paying me the minimum from the State which is $189.00/week and that is what I am getting now.

    Kelly, would you mind telling me what you're getting from the State of Ohio and if you know a trick to get them to review one's status.  I called weeks ago and was on hold for nearly two hours but finally spoke with a woman who said they had gotten my 2018 1040 & my 2019 1099 & paystubs but I remain at the $189/week.  Perhaps Independent Contractors are limited to the minimum with Ohio?  If that is the case, it would be good to know.

    Thanks,

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    Peter Lockhart CPL
    Independent
    Ashland OH
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  • 13.  RE: Independent Contractors & Unemployment

    Posted 08-07-2020 10:57
    GIG workers, Independents, contract workers, are receiving the $600 per week stimulus, from the Texas Workforce Commission. On top of whatever the TWC is paying.
    Have you not applied for unemployment?

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    Clark Breeding
    Landman
    Curative Specialist
    Midland, Texas
    clarkbreeding@gmail.com
    432-238-5156
    Clark
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