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Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

  • 1.  Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 25 days ago
    I would like the Leadership of AAPL to write a Letter to Texas Senators and all other states that are affected explaining that the majority of Landmen are Independent Contractors. The extra unemployment that most have been getting is helping . July 31 is the date with which it will disappear. Most don't have anything to go back to as the industry is in shambles. Please implore our leadership to go to bat for us. If you agree, please chime in. Hopefully things get going soon.

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    Rutledge Deas
    Professional Land LLC
    Spring TX
    (281) 796-8066
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  • 2.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 25 days ago
    AAPL Leadership needs to light Senators McConnell, KY, Paul KY, Cruz, TX, Graham, SC, Portman, OH, Lee, Utah, these members need their phones lit up. Not to mention that Trump says no to extending them. Now is the time for AAPL to put their might to work.


    Kelly T. Stumbo
    Managing Member
    Appalachian Energy Partners, LLC

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    Kelly Stumbo
    Appalachian Energy Partners, LLC
    Springfield OH
    (304) 451-0550
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  • 3.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
    And lets not forget, Senator Kennedy, LA .....

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    Jason VanPelt RPL
    Spring TX
    (281) 825-6414
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  • 4.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 25 days ago
    I agree. 

    SINCERE QUESTION: I have only been "in the business" for about 20 years. The ONE THING that is difficult to understand is how the industry can shut down in a matter of two weeks & yet when oil goes back up after 2-3 months, it then takes two years to get everyone employed again.

    CAN ANY OF YOU VETERANS EXPLAIN THIS? THANKS.





  • 5.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 24 days ago
    Russell, the shales have changed everything. When it started I said "uh, oh" The low hanging fruit of typical oil/gas traps is not completely dead, but it smells bad. I am from Louisiana originally and played Louisiana most of my career exploring salt domes and plenty of other Geological prospects. Good ole fault traps, perm barrier traps, etc.... There are still things to do, but more expensive, deeper, hotter and the Legacy Lawsuits and the trial lawyers have made Louisiana a toxic place to do business. The shales are the source. Plus, to top it off for Landmen is that shale units are huge. not as much work to do. A&D will be coming soon as we will see more and more bankruptcies. Like any business it's all about the economics of the projects. I remember the days of 40-1 on your ROI. Today? Lucky to see 3or 4-1. Long story short, the O&G Business is in shambles. The Venture Capital boys from Wall Street got burned and they left. Used to be you drilled using your cash flow, but it became a huge land grab and drill, baby, drill. Drilling drives the bus. Uncharted Waters. Been in this biz 39 years and this is the worst. It will come back to some degree, but depends on prices, period.

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    Rutledge Deas
    Professional Land LLC
    Spring TX
    (281) 796-8066
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  • 6.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
    Hard to explain, a wise man told me in 1986 when my oldest was 1 years old and my wife was pregnant with my second, oil  went to $8, that oil drops like an elevator and goes up like an escalator, those words are still true today,  got to keep a stiff upper lip in this business
    Stay strong and hang in there !

    J Mark Smith

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    J. Smith
    J. Mark Smith & Associates
    Beaumont TX
    (409) 833-3133
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  • 7.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 24 days ago

    Rutledge

    Your suggestion has merit and it is encouraging to see that many other Landmen, like myself, are seeking reasonable options to support our Profession, during these critical times.  Still waiting for the A.A.P.L. to make statements about this, rather than an emphasis on Annual Dues.  





  • 8.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 24 days ago
    I totally concur with that suggestion. Some of us were also unable to get the additional financial help such as PPP etc

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    Debbie Hill
    Diamond Road Energy, LLC
    Richmond TX
    (337) 349-0224
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  • 9.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 24 days ago

    Thank You, Debbie, for your additional commentary.   Still waiting to see something from the Full Time, Salaried Executives @ A.A.P.L. Headquarters ,  in support of the Many Hard Working, Inpependent Professional Landmen, that are in dire need of assistance during these critical times that are affection our industry.







  • 10.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
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    Thank you all for your participation in this discussion thread. I hear you!

    In fact, I am currently working with the AAPL Legislative/Regulatory Committee leadership to strategize such an advocacy outreach campaign to elected officials. Right now there is the issue of effective timing to make sure that when we leverage the power of our membership we reach legislators when they are listening. The Congress, as many know, is about to depart on their July 4th recess for two weeks, returning July 17. In the interim period before then, the only legislation being considered is a police reform bill. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has communicated that no further coronavirus stimulus packages are being considered before then. The pressure (and focus) for Congress to act on an extension for the CARES Act federal unemployment benefit payments will come upon their return. As some may already know, in May, the U.S. House of Representatives already passed the HEROES Act (H.R. 6800) which does provide for an extension of those benefits through January 31, 2021 and payments could be extended through March 31, 2021 for those already receiving federal payments. (Read more here) There are also other proposals be floated out there by Republicans and Democrats in lieu of the $600/week payments. Read more below. At present, the HEROES Act has been received by the Senate and there is expected to be quite a bit of wrangling over the many provisions in the 18,000+ page bill (many of which do not relate to this discussion thread). That bill, or other proposals, will need to be reconciled by Congress, but again, there is not expected to be any focus until after July 17 which will be most advantageous for getting AAPL's voice heard. Please stay tuned for further updates!

    In the meantime, some useful resources:

    Details on the HEROES Act and the continuation of federal benefits:
    https://www.debt.org/2020/06/01/heroes-act/

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2020/06/15/unemployment-benefits-end/#3d9bc5db4f6d

    I have also attached a report by the Vice Chairman of the Congressional Joint Task Force Committee on the need for extended benefits, which you may also access here: https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/about-205




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    Russell Cohen
    AAPL Governmental Affairs
    rcohen@landman.org
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  • 11.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
    Terry:

    For the record, the members of the AAPL Executive Committee (President, 1st through 3rd Vice Presidents, Secretary, Treasurer and Immediate Past President) are all unpaid volunteer AAPL members, as are all of the Regional Directors and committee chairs and assistants. Together, those members make up the AAPL Board of Directors, who govern the association. While AAPL does have a paid staff, with the exception of one employee, they are association management professionals, and not landmen.

    As I have suggested to Rutledge, a grassroots campaign from hundreds or thousands of members would be far more effective than a letter from the association leadership.

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    Curtis Horne CPL
    (713) 225-6700
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  • 12.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
    Rutledge:

    I don't know that a letter from AAPL leadership would even get the attention of some of our "representatives" in Washington. I do know, however, that thousands of letters from their constituents does make a difference. I would recommend that you draft a sample letter for our members to send to their Senators and Congressmen. Both the House and Senate have websites to help determine who your representatives are, and provides their contact info. That type of grassroots campaign would be far more effective than a letter from a professional association.



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    Curtis Horne CPL
    (713) 225-6700
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  • 13.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
    Thanks Curtis. I woild like to hear from our Leadership. It's part of the job. I am sure that a lot of letters get thrown out in Washington. I do not want the Independent Contractor issue to get lost in the weeds. I am afraid that they will just say, go look for a job. I am and I am sure a lot of folks are, but Landwork is damn near non existent. If the AAPL Leadership refuses, I will glady draft a letter. Thanks

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    Rutledge Deas
    Professional Land LLC
    Spring TX
    (281) 796-8066
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  • 14.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
    And to piggyback on Curt's point (thank you, Curt!), you can find your specific legislator quite easily at the website below if you wanted to reach out individually.

    https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials


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    Russell Cohen
    AAPL Governmental Affairs
    rcohen@landman.org
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  • 15.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
    Russell, is that a no on writing a letter from AAPL Leadership? Your comment seems to suggest that?





  • 16.  RE: Unemployment Insurance, Independent Contractors & AAPL Leadership

    Posted 23 days ago
    Rutledge,

    Thank you for the question. I was speaking only on behalf of my efforts as the AAPL Governmental Affairs Manager working in conjunction with the current chairman of the Legislative/Regulatory Committee, DJ Cherry, to let members know that we do take all of this seriously and want to support our members in this effort. Of course, as an AAPL member you can always reach out directly to our leadership for their take, but at this stage I was communicating on behalf of staff.

    https://www.landman.org/about/governance/leadership


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    Russell Cohen
    AAPL Governmental Affairs
    rcohen@landman.org
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