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Information needed for section of land in west Texas

  • 1.  Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 09-21-2020 16:23
    Edited by Lyndsey Callahan 09-21-2020 16:22
    Posted on behalf of Samuel Hudson:

    I am in need solid information about a section of land in West Texas that my family has owned since the early 1900s. I need to know who owns the section now, who manages it, and if it is leased and to whom. I think a Landman can also get a history of who has paid for the leases and for approximately how much.

    I had a legal description of the section. I have looked and looked, but I can't find it. The information about the land I do have is anecdotal -

    >>> Our section straddles the border between Reaves and Pecos Counties. It is irregularly shaped. The family has owned both surface and mineral rights.

    >>> My grandfather, Samuel Moore Hudson I,  bought it before 1913. His address was in Fort Worth.

    >>> After his death in 1913, his estate or his widow owned it. His widow's name was Mab Douglass Gates Hudson. She remarried and added Stephens as her last name.

    >>> After 1929, Mab Hudson Stephens' address in Fort Worth was 800 Eighth Avenue. 

    >>> After Mab died in 1961, the section went to her son (my father) Luther Moore Hudson, and/or with his sisters Louise Hudson and Mary Finley Hudson.

    >>> Luther's addresses in Fort Worth were 2007 Hillcrest and 6315 Rosemont. He was a lawyer who had clients in the oil business, so he took care of taxes and leases. He leased mineral rights many times, both to majors and to independents. Not one of them drilled on the section.

    >>> Luther died in 1992. After his death, ownership passed to his estate or to his widow (my mother), Moreen Woolwine Hudson. Her address then was 5205 Ledgestone Drive, Fort Worth. My sister and/or her husband took care of leases and taxes for my mother.

    >>> After Moreen's death in 2003, all or parts of the section were owned by her estate or by trust funds set up for me and my sister.

    >>> For at least 40 years that I know of, grazing rights for the section were leased by a ranching family named McNeil. Their fences surrounded it.The McNeils paid a minimal annual fee.

    >>> In the 1980s, I was a newspaper reporter (famous for my typos), and supposed to be pretty good at tracking down facts, so it fell to me to   both assert ownership and to maintain our agricultural use tax status.

    >>> To check on the agricultural exemptions, I set up appointments with clerks in the courthouses in Fort Stockton and Pecos and drove out to see to them.

    >>> The clerk at Fort Stockton – I wish I could remember her name - asked me, "Has anybody in your family ever seen your land?" I told her we never had. She grinned and said, "Honey, it's just holding two other parts of the world together."

    I hope to gain some more insight, as this is about all I have about our section.

    Sam Hudson,

    1900 Bluebird Avenue

    Fort Worth, TX 76111

    817-937-3218 (cell only)

    samhudson@earthlink.net





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    Sam Hudson
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  • 2.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 09-22-2020 11:00
    Hi,

    My name is David Deville. I am a Landman in Lafayette, LA. I was just wondering if you ever received any feedback on this matter.  I'm asking because I would like to help if I can.  I've been a Landman for 23+- years and an active member of AAPL.  Hope to hear from you.  Best of luck to you.

    Sincerely,

    David Deville, CPL
    337.501.3285

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    David Deville CPL
    Suncoast Land Services, Inc.
    Lafayette LA
    (337) 501-3285
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  • 3.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 09-23-2020 15:22
    I sent Sam the Section information, some tax information, and a couple of RRC plats that I think he needed but I haven't heard back from him.

    John P.

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    John Pritchard
    Tyler TX
    (903) 245-5547
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  • 4.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 09-22-2020 12:20
    Who is/has been paying the taxes?

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    Wendy Albert
    ROW Research LLC
    Fort Worth TX
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  • 5.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 09-22-2020 12:45
      |   view attached
    Find attached, a quick search from Pecos County for Samuel M. Hudson

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    Patricia McKay
    Independent Landman
    Gulfport MS
    (662) 251-6745
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    Hudson.pdf   69K 1 version


  • 6.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 09-22-2020 15:33
    Based on legal description provided by Patricia McKay, it looks like that section is now owned by Rock River Minerals (50%) and Brigham Mineral (50%) - See attached deeds and PCAD tax cards for that portion lying in Pecos County.  Did not check Reeves County.  Hope this is helpful.

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    Wendy Albert
    ROW Research LLC
    Fort Worth TX
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  • 7.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 09-22-2020 18:11
    Should be a straightforward job for any experienced landman.  Probably most of the work can be done on line.

    Bruce W. Roberts, RPL
    Abstract 49, LLC
    Oil & gas leasing services
    abstract49@pm.me
    title49@icloud.com
    (254) 749-0730
    (254) 715-0810






  • 8.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 09-22-2020 18:13
    Edited by Lyndsey Callahan 09-22-2020 18:12
    Mr. Hudson, please see the attached. 
    The lands appear to be Sec 30, Blk 49, Twp 8 South, T&P RR Co / J. F. Ross, A-2442 Reeves Co and A-9535 Pecos Co. 
    I have not requested information from the GLO, but it appears to be subject to the Relinquishment Act.
    Shenandoah Petroleum has drilled two Wells into the Delaware Formation, each of which appear to hold 40 acres to 5,620 feet. 
    Diamondback has drilled four Wells into the Wolfcamp so far. The Rock River State 30 No. 1H has produced since January 2017; the other three Wells were completed earlier this year and apparently not begun to produce. 
    Unfortunately for Mr. Hudson, the Susanna H. Lea Trust and the Samuel M. Hudson Trust sold the land, and with that the mineral and royalty interest, to Watkins Royalty in 2015, prior to any production from the Diamondback Wells was established. 
    At least they received a fairly hefty Bonus Payment when they leased in 2015! 
    Wish I had better news, 
    Charles
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    Charles Emery Tooke III
    Certified Professional Landman
    6437 Locke Avenue
    Fort Worth, Texas 76116-4410
    (713) 931-LAND Home Office
    (682) 249-7144 Cellular
    fieldlandservices@gmail.com
     
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  • 9.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

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  • 10.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 13 days ago
    Hi AAPL,

    I am a member AAPL. I just need to new password on login.

    Thanks
    Marina Garcia​

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    Marina Garcia
    Ambit Energy, LLC Natrual Gas Company
    Elgin TX
    (512) 961-7495
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  • 11.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 12 days ago
    Hi Marina -
    Thank you for being a member of AAPL. Please contact our Member Services team to obtain login information. You can reach them at (817) 847-7700.

    Best regards,



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    Dr. Greta Zeimetz CAE
    Executive Vice President
    AAPL/NAPE
    Fort Worth TX
    (817) 447-7700 Ext 103
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  • 12.  RE: Information needed for section of land in west Texas

    Posted 11 days ago
    Hi Greta,

    I got a new password and It is successful. And I got a Landman- openforum.

    Thank you for your information
    Marina Garcia